Phoenix Regional Board»Massive LE Operation is ongoing
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dave in phoenix Member Since: Sat, Dec. 31, 2005 Posts: 11 |
Massive LE Operation is ongoing Dave in Phoenix
Posted: Tue, Aug. 05, 2008 @ 20:30
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dave in phoenix Member Since: Sat, Dec. 31, 2005 Posts: 11 |
Bust update Going after maybe thousands of customers from 400 page ledger police found Chan 15 news 6pm reports thousands of customers names seized and many of them are well known name everyone will know, "and every single one of them will be prosecuted." 3 homes seized along with cars etc ..showed neighbors "shocked"! Rounding up as many of the reported 100 gals that worked for agencies that they can find. Hopefully there will be the same kind of public reaction that was against Sheriff Joe's roundup in 2003 when all the cases were tossed but some providers till lost their homes or had to buy out the equity when taken under RICO. This time however Mayor Gordon is fully supportive of the bust and the terrible horrors of in private consenting adult sexwork. News reports say most of the clients were out of town and gals local. Obviously like in D.C. Madam case customers want their identify protected. Worse than under DC Madam, in AZ, first offense prostitution is mandatory jail time for both customers and companions. The many felony charges against those related to the agency carry long prison terms. And the Feds have not even charged yet under Mann Act which probably applies in some cases. Obviously a very bad situation and why I have been so outspoken about trying to organize to change the laws for private sexwork, not street hookers. County Attorney Thomas stated, “Our office will work to protect the citizens and neighborhoods of this county from criminal exploitation. We appreciate the excellent work of the Phoenix police detectives who investigated these offenses.” Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon stated, “These are not victimless crimes. On the most basic level, those involved in prostitution, and the family members who love them, are neglected or worse. And the money generated from these illegal ventures helps fund other criminal enterprises such as drug and smuggling operations. This is a good use of resources and I thank the County Attorney and the Phoenix Police Department for working together to make this a better community.” Phoenix Police Chief Jack Harris stated, “I would like to commend the men and women of the Vice Enforcement Unit of the Phoenix Police Department, as well as the other agencies that have assisted us, for the many hours they have spent and will spend during the course of this investigation. This investigation successfully targeted a large scale, sophisticated organization dealing in prostitution and pornography, which are often referred to as “victimless crimes”. However, our experience has shown us that these crimes have far reaching consequences on our community. That is why the Phoenix Police Department is committed to fighting these types of crimes.” Massive TV news coverage Highlights Chan 3 & 12 Pictures of Paul's home and websites. Over 100 gals worked for the agencies who they are now arresting. "These are not your typical street walkers, these girls range from your middle class to your upper class neighborhoods, we have taken them out of some very good neighborhoods this morning, some still live with there parents." said a police officer Most valuable information came from a computer including a 400 page ledger with lots of names. "Looking at hundreds if not thousands of John's we have to follow up on at this time. It may take months to go thru that ledger and contact every name that is included. " The County attorney says all the John's will be prosecuted if details warrant. Police refer to taking the head of the snake, revering to Paul and his top people to stop this criminal enterprise. From TV reports: Extensive details in News Release of Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas at http://www.azfamily.com/images/links/080508DesertDivas.pdf
Posted: Wed, Aug. 06, 2008 @ 01:41
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dave in phoenix Member Since: Sat, Dec. 31, 2005 Posts: 11 |
Police Report is Very Damaging and Shows what NOT TO DO I shared a huge amount of detail and quotes from the report on the Phoenix Private List by e-mail but since the police report is not public I am not posting the huge details on any public boards yet. I am being careful not to use detective names etc. I also understand a new prosecutor has been tasked to expand the investigation. Brief Overview without the real details: They had 5 undercover's just at one meet and greet party who were offered sex for money and discussed the business in great depth with the nice cops who were on the mailing list to be notified of the weekly meetings at "The Firm" in Scottsdale. Cops were happy to attend and write lots of crime reports. A female police officer was hired by Paul as an escort. Many gals admitted they had sex for money and how Paul told them what sex acts they had to perform. Everything also confirmed by various phone operators when interrogated. The police report is dated April 2008, long before the bust where almost 400 pages of customer lists were found on the computer Paul bragged was unable to be accessed by police. The April 2008 report is the basis for the 55 original indictments and the currents busts which may result in many more gals interrogated to strengthen the case which may lead to more arrests. The thosands of customers found in the computer records is not clear. Undercover clients did get naked but then had a code word (assume they were wired) which resulted in a cell phone call, they said was from wife and had to go before did anything sexual but after the "deal" of sex for money was established. Paul and Peter took an undercover cop to lunch and told all about the agency operation including how to hide money. Discussed Dave Elms and how to play the TER game and get good reviews. TER reviews are now in an evidence binder. I am told by my source that an undercover has a TER screen name, actively posts and has 3 sting reviews of gals. TER is known for undercover activity and Dave Elms will not allow warnings about them since he could be charged with interfering with a police operation. The police report has extensive info about TER and they have a binder of all the reviews for evidence. I do not know the screen name and if I did I could not tell anyone or it could be interfering with a current police operation. We have been misguided in our thoughts that reviews can not be used against gals or customers. They can are are being used as evidence - more discussion of how in my comments in the police report detailed review below. Paul wanted to wipe out the other competition in Phoenix and rule the city as escort king as well as move his "business model" to other cities. He was arrogant and boastful. He also had a close relationship with Dave Elms of TER to help him rid the industry of honest competition. Many informed sources have told me about this connection and goal beyond what is in the report. After more gals arrested very possible more gals are cooperating for plea deals. One attorney involved in the case strongly urges companions to try and get any reviews taken down from TER or other public boards LE may find, although it may be already too late if they have already extended the investigation especially too independents. The remaining honest agencies have already lawyed up and taken actions to protect themselves, removed reviews etc. That leaves mostly the independents still exposed if they don't act. Ads if no sex acts are mentioned only hourly fees, are probably less of an issue than reviews that report on illegal sex acts on public boards. Speculation - the further busts promised and perhaps release of customer names may come closer to the election to remind folks how great the County Attorney is in ridding Phoenix of the terrible crime of prostitution that somehow makes our city so much safer. There is also fear that there may be another wave of activity going after independents but this is totally speculative. Better to be safe than sorry. Attorney involved strongly urges reviews and ads not be on public boards to be used by LE, especially TER known to be swarming with law enforcement detectives out to stamp out and be sure we do not have the sexual freedoms most of the world enjoys. This helps win elections they seem to think. This conflicts with my comments last week that perhaps it is safer now since the courts are so tied up with the current 55 cases. I hope I was right last week but I am hearing from other they think more busts are coming. The bottom line is no one but law enforcement knows but considering the serious consequences of being arrested I urge caution. LE Insiders who are upset with busts of these victimless crimes may be more careful after a dispatcher that had previously fed info on ongoing operations was caught doing so. Heck, many in law enforcement are reported to be customers!
Posted: Tue, Aug. 26, 2008 @ 00:59
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